Hop-Ups for Dummies - Advanced Honda 50 Tuning by Chad Baird and Stanton High

In Honda 50 Carb Tuning, Stanton High gave us a thorough view on what it takes to do a basic carb tune. In this article, Stanton and Chad Baird team up to bring you some advanced tuning techniques.

Chad: Whether your bike is coughing sputtering and popping like a three-pack-a-day smoker or you just not sure what it should run like after you spend big bucks on an engine kit, Stanton and I are going to try and help you “git er done” and make that bike run like it should by using the dyno everyone comes with from birth, the seat of your pants.

Here’s a list of stuff to be done to completely tune a bike:

1. Adjust the valves
2. Clean the air filter
3. Change the oil
4. Select a main jet
5. Check the float height
6. Set the needle height
7. Select the pilot jet
8. Set the idle

Let's start with step four for this article. We’ll cover 1-3 another time so we can get right to the meat of things now.

Step Four: Select a Main Jet
Scrounge up some masking tape. You need two pieces - one for the throttle and one for the handlebar.
On your tape, mark out ¼ increments starting from zero throttle opening. Stick one piece of tape on your throttle and one on the handle bar. The zero position should match up on both pieces of tape - as in zero throttle input. Keep an eye on your tape increments and keep a mental note of where the motor feels anemic.

Now, warm up that motor and do some full throttle runs. The engine should pull HARD all the way to redline and keep pulling to the rev limiter. NO sputtering, surging or crapping out.

Lean/Rich Test --- Try accelerating hard and letting off the throttle, if it surges or power picks up after backing off the throttle a little bit, your main is too small. If your engine sputters on the way to full throttle your main is too large. Ignore off idle symptoms until your main is the correct size.

Step Five: Check the Float Height
Refer to your manual for this one. If you have never messed with this then it’s probably okay. Basically, you measure from the base of the carb to the very top of the float without compressing the float needle. You make the adjustment by bending the tang found in the center of the float.

Stanton: For the stock carb its 7/16". Carbs that come with bore kits are almost always set correctly from the factory. If you are doing big jumping it might get thrown off. Mine did that :)

Step Six: Set the Needle Height
Raising the needle enriches the mixture and lowering it leans it out. This is the tricky part… normally you can leave the needle in the stock position and shim it with a small washer to raise the needle if you haven’t swapped out the stock exhaust pipe. The needle basically meters fuel and helps transition from your pilot circuit to your main. If your bike is acting up from idle to the main jet, it’s going to be here.

Step Seven: Select the Pilot Jet
Warm up your engine. Set the idle to a higher rpm. Find the air screw and turn it in until it seats lightly. Back it out until the engine gets to it’s highest rpm and then turn it in until the engine starts to miss.. Go back about a ¼ turn and it’s set.
NOTE: You will know if your pilot is too large if you have to turn the air screw out more than three turns. Go one pilot size smaller. Having too large of a pilot is one reason why plugs get fouled.

Step eight: Idle Adjustment - Back the idle screw out until engine settles back down to a nice lope.


Some Extra Notes On Tuning:

Chad: Your base line is your stock setup but there are steps that should be taken and not changed in order to get consistent results. I hear the stock pipe is the best for producing torque.

Stanton: aftermarket pipes make more of a pop off the throttle but drag the low rpm power down. In other words, the after market pipes cater to a higher RPM range and bring the peak HP and TQ higher into the power band.

Chad: About Plug Chops (or plug reading the old school way): This method isn't as good as it used to be because of the unleaded fuel we use today, it could be very misleading. Don't count on it.. This should be mentioned as an exception and not a rule. It's good to keep clean plugs for max performance anyway.

From past experience the best way to dial in a carb is to change the main jet first and work your way down low. Especially if you deviate from both the stock air cleaner and exhaust. Otherwise your chasing symptoms right??

Contrary to popular belief the main jet DOES affect low speed operation as does needle height then float height and finally the slow speed circuits; pilot and air screw. These circuits don't work alone but transition smoothly into each other depending on the desired end results.

About the authors:
Chad Baird - My riding/wrenching obsession started in the summer of 88-89. My Dad got me a used $50 Sears minibike with a seized 4hp Tecumseh. I spent hours upon hours in the garage hooking up throttle cables/linkages, kill switches, changing tires, swapping engines and of course riding and crashing. Dad would hand me a repair manual, show me how to do something once (mostly how to use a tool) and then was pretty much hands off except to yell at me about loosing his tools. He would also cuss me out for taking off without making the bike 100% ride-able or fixing something half-assed. So that's basically how I learned, lot's a trial/error and getting yelled at. heheh.. Now my whole life revolves around working on, riding, talking about and teaching others who are interested and even some who aren't, how to do the same.

Stanton High has ridden on wheels for as long as he can remember. In 2003, he discovered the xr50 and was instantly hooked. Recently, Stanton was in a bad accident and half his body was burned. "It was hell," Stanton recalls. But after four months and 13 surgeries later he got back on the xr50 and is now riding harder than ever. These days Stanton rides as much as he can and is looking for a job in a machine shop. You can check out some of Stanton's riding in the Rider Gallery.

Related Links containing How-tos:

Honda 50 Carb Tuning
Carb Theory 101

Eric Gorr's Carb Tuning
Mikuni Performance Guide
Mikuni Tuning Guide
Night Rider Tech Tips

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